Subject	one reply to myself, before ASH jumps my ass.
Posted by	niXit on February 07, 2003 at 2:21 PM
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In Reply To	seconded, for legit reasons... posted by niXit on February 07, 2003 at 02:05 PM
Message	:1. it's home brew this can be good. it can be bad. :2. it changes versions every day. this is always bad :3. the seller *never* responds to emails unless it benefits him in some way. this is so way bad, it's not even worth meantioning anything else :4. it's completely unproven. (reliability) not enough hours on the ole Hobbs meter (hour meter of engine time accrued, as used in aircraft). this can be remedied pretty easily :5. it's completely unproven. (dyno numbers) yea ya, he posted dyno sheets. big deal. he didn't spend all day tweaking just timing numbers. he dynoed JWT , his, and then made changes to his program. I doubt he did more then 10 runs combined. this is therefore still unproven and effectively dangerous. :6. it's completely unproven. (it's gonna take time for his ecus to get out there and get atleast 1 year of glitch free service) still applies for me to be happy, he'd need to spend alot more time on the dyno tuning and testing and coming out with a version1.0 that doesnt change daily. he'd need to show us all the charts. not just the peak ones. Ive tuned a few cars on the dyno, or assisted (12+ z32s under my belt) and one thing that is very consistent is INCONSISTENCY (except ElGuapos car...his was DNaccurate each time...Na for life...)
Follow Ups	Just wanted everyones opinions............. - krd 12:36:16 02/07/03 Ash is good. I am going with it shortly, after I get my 555 (n/m) - 2-turbos 12:39:45 02/07/03 I'll get his ECU as soon as I convert next month... - Slobo7x 13:58:38 02/07/03 is that new eprom the equal as his old one, - SlidewaysZ 12:42:57 02/07/03 3 other things added on? - BOOZTD 3 12:59:43 02/07/03 personally, id stay away - HalfnHalf702[HJC] 12:45:41 02/07/03 I feel sorry for everyone who buys ash's stuff ahead of time - Jack B. 12:46:59 02/07/03 Its too bad that the "proven" is now outdated... (n/m) - code3smith 13:12:34 02/07/03 lol, please explain how it is "outdated" - HalfnHalf702[HJC] 13:31:26 02/07/03 I think he is referring to the fact that their program - AshsZ (FABio) 14:46:27 02/07/03 btw, whats your mark up on those eproms? - HalfnHalf702[HJC] 15:25:59 02/07/03 The eprom and socket cost me $2. You aren't paying for that. - AshsZ (FABio) 15:40:55 02/07/03 Being "just a Chip" is not that bad, I have been for almost - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 17:17:05 02/07/03 you cocky son of a b*tch - HalfnHalf702[HJC] 18:01:09 02/07/03 ...and don't forget that he didn't engineer his from scratch - madman99 23:26:17 02/07/03 pretty sure your first claim is false. - Kez43 02:47:45 02/08/03 You're right - aliaZ 09:54:00 02/08/03 And you're an idiot - Jack B. 11:46:58 02/08/03 seriously - HalfnHalf702[HJC] 21:56:29 02/08/03 ok... - aliaZ 01:00:37 02/08/03 LOL, you're hilarious... - madman99 23:23:08 02/07/03 so what...you want one for free you cheapskate? - cant_z_me(600ZXTT) 17:09:19 02/07/03 LoL is right. But the only one laughing is Jim Wolf... - code3smith 15:34:35 02/07/03 I've proven their lack of concern for safety.... - AshsZ (FABio) 13:40:08 02/07/03 People have to buy it to "prove it" how else do you do it. (n/m) - Hungryjack 13:50:30 02/07/03 u've had that sig for too long now (n/m) - CaptanZap 13:51:54 02/07/03 I've never had a problem with him - BOOZTD 3 12:57:26 02/07/03 lucky you, check search (n/m) - HalfnHalf702[HJC] 12:59:45 02/07/03 i guess lucky me, too. - cant_z_me(600ZXTT) 17:12:23 02/07/03 lol. get a clue - aliaZ 13:26:09 02/07/03 Is Ash going to cover damages like that? - ZHOUND 13:28:38 02/07/03 probably not. what's your point? (n/m) - aliaZ 13:29:40 02/07/03 Then the only difference is - ZHOUND 13:33:56 02/07/03 well said (n/m) - HalfnHalf702[HJC] 13:35:03 02/07/03 No offense to Greg Dupree, but why do you - AshsZ (FABio) 13:48:04 02/07/03 hes worked on more Z's then you'll see in your lifetime - HalfnHalf702[HJC] 13:52:38 02/07/03 Read my response to Seedy. *sigh* - AshsZ (FABio) 14:25:13 02/07/03 you're such an idiot, you amaze me with every post (n/m) - HalfnHalf702[HJC] 20:58:59 02/07/03 Yeah, it's 15+ years working on Z cars specifically there - SeedyROM 13:55:19 02/07/03 I like how you guys automatically think I'm saying something - AshsZ (FABio) 14:10:23 02/07/03 I didn't take it as insulting. I answered your question :) - SeedyROM 14:26:05 02/07/03 SeedyROM, what is the color code of your cherry red pearl? - DVDBurn(MD) 15:17:28 02/07/03 Greg Dupree has a history like JWT. - ZHOUND 13:58:21 02/07/03 I said, "NO OFFENSE TO GREG DUPREE." I was telling you that - AshsZ (FABio) 14:03:48 02/07/03 Yeah no one is offended. (n/m) - ZHOUND 14:05:00 02/07/03 It's pretty bold of you to speak in Greg's behalf.. - Spongerider (Now PFC) 17:06:16 02/07/03 and pretty bold of these other people to badmouth products - cant_z_me(600ZXTT) 17:14:49 02/07/03 How long has JWT been around?? It takes time to - Hungryjack 13:56:37 02/07/03 Umm. No. - ZHOUND 14:04:16 02/07/03 Interesting that they would overlook so many things - AshsZ (FABio) 14:22:13 02/07/03 ROFL...came up with their own product...you just said - cant_z_me(600ZXTT) 17:17:02 02/07/03 Wow. What a great way to represent AshZ. - ZHOUND 17:37:26 02/07/03 Zo don't waste you breath on a NEWBIE like him look at - Spongerider (Now PFC) 17:53:25 02/07/03 Yeah. I didn't know Ash was marketing to the Ghetto. LOL (n/m) - ZHOUND 18:01:54 02/07/03 i guess you two tag team forum members as you do eachother.. - cant_z_me(600ZXTT) 20:45:23 02/07/03 ROFL (n/m) - ZHOUND 20:49:37 02/07/03 nice profile - HalfnHalf702[HJC] 20:56:47 02/07/03 don't be mad cause you've never OWNED a lexus... - cant_z_me(600ZXTT) 01:07:43 02/08/03 holy christ, you've nailed me - HalfnHalf702[HJC] 05:19:35 02/08/03 LoL..Keep showing us your intelligence.. - Spongerider (Now PFC) 23:18:26 02/07/03 bad "grammer", huh....who graduated high school you fucking - cant_z_me(600ZXTT) 01:50:24 02/08/03 LOL, I need not say more NEWBIE!! :) (n/m) - Spongerider (Now PFC) 18:40:57 02/08/03 You information is FALSE. JWT did not make their own ECU's - CaptanZap 03:46:59 02/08/03 No one in their right mind would. It would be a free for all - AshsZ (FABio) 13:34:59 02/07/03 send me a zem and i'll prove your product. :D (n/m) - Chris-TTZ 13:52:38 02/07/03 One thing that you REALLY need to understand in business>> - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 15:00:04 02/07/03 Chip, I know this. Its the reason this whole post - AshsZ (FABio) 15:28:12 02/07/03 did i now? - HalfnHalf702[HJC] 15:58:50 02/07/03 You continue to dodge my question - - AshsZ (FABio) 16:14:14 02/07/03 i never said your ecu would ruin an engine - HalfnHalf702[HJC] 18:02:07 02/07/03 I see what you are saying. I may not contain myself - AshsZ (FABio) 14:41:22 02/08/03 nicely said - HalfnHalf702[HJC] 04:33:16 02/09/03 and why do you think JWT's ecu runs so rich? - Kez43 02:51:17 02/08/03 Its their version of safety. But you can make more power - AshsZ (FABio) 14:29:22 02/08/03 Hmmm.. I hoped I wouldn't have to use these this way, but - AshsZ (FABio) 13:31:43 02/07/03 Are those #'s just from stock to your program? - -Ever- 13:37:35 02/07/03 Stock program on the NA. The TT is my Z and its not - AshsZ (FABio) 14:44:49 02/07/03 you still cant stand it when not everyone trusts your words - HalfnHalf702[HJC] 13:45:10 02/07/03 I've presented dynos, I've produced documentation for this - AshsZ (FABio) 13:54:47 02/07/03 btw, this whole thread is hilarious - HalfnHalf702[HJC] 05:30:13 02/08/03 oh i don't know, maybe he's pissed that people like you make - SUPRMANZ 14:05:38 02/07/03 ash is a lot like hitler - HalfnHalf702[HJC] 14:10:12 02/07/03 And you are obviously borederline insane. - AshsZ (FABio) 14:15:05 02/07/03 in my original post, did i say your ecu was "bad?" - HalfnHalf702[HJC] 14:20:14 02/07/03 nothing wrong with that... - aliaZ 14:26:32 02/07/03 The hitler quote is DEAD ON actually. - Jack B. 14:38:00 02/07/03 I'm glad to know you personally knew Hitler.. - AshsZ (FABio) 14:42:32 02/07/03 now THAT was lame (n/m) - HalfnHalf702[HJC] 15:16:55 02/07/03 Keep digging that hole, pudwacker... (n/m) - AshsZ (FABio) 15:24:00 02/07/03 You knew exactly what your post would do before you clicked - AshsZ (FABio) 14:40:17 02/07/03 my point was you didn't state an opinion of his product, - SUPRMANZ 14:19:10 02/07/03 you really should use search (n/m) - HalfnHalf702[HJC] 14:26:19 02/07/03 why? that shit doesn't work half the time. (n/m) - SUPRMANZ 14:31:59 02/07/03 replace "ash" with "nixit" and its still accurate. - niXit 15:39:48 02/07/03 i think he's mad cause he spent $550 on an eprom that didn't - cant_z_me(600ZXTT) 17:21:41 02/07/03 So... - Adam A. 14:59:00 02/07/03 No, look around at the other posts. I said that because - AshsZ (FABio) 15:23:12 02/07/03 seconded, for legit reasons... - niXit 14:05:01 02/07/03 one reply to myself, before ASH jumps my ass. - niXit 14:21:06 02/07/03 I was just letting it slide.. >>>> - AshsZ (FABio) 14:32:33 02/07/03 On #3. Ash has always responded to me on emails. no matter - Hungryjack 15:44:02 02/07/03 I have sent him at least 5 emails. - niXit 15:48:31 02/07/03 He always responded to mine, about 2 or 3. (n/m) - Kenny (10 psi TT) 15:56:02 02/07/03 Why haven't you confirmed it through AIM? You know my SN - AshsZ (FABio) 15:58:16 02/07/03 i have his ECU, along with 7 other local Bay Area Guys - CaptanZap 13:48:25 02/07/03 i just bought his ecu last week - holcomb74 20:48:11 02/07/03 ::thumbs up:: (n/m) - Kez43 02:58:55 02/08/03
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